Signatures Page Four
Pages Two and Three were presented with the petition, on Dec. 6th, 2006
This page was mailed to USTA on September 15th, 2007
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Debbie Fleming |
FL |
Jacksonville |
Should not be able to penalize a player for improving during the season. Somehow a person needs to be involved to protect and promote the ratings. It is extremely unfair to the teams that strive to improve and play by all the rules to be disqualified by a computer. |
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susan kubricht |
fl |
jacksonville |
player |
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Kathy Whitaker |
FL |
Jacksonville |
I am both a player and a Captain and feel that once a player reaches sectionals it is unfair to the player and their team if they can be disqualified at this late time in the season. |
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Therese DeOre |
FL |
Jacksonville |
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Elise Leasure |
FL |
Jacksonville |
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Judith Gabler |
FL |
Jacksonville |
Player |
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Kevin |
GA |
Atlanta |
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Lisa Gentile |
CT |
Easton |
captain |
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Julien REIGNIER |
FL |
Jacksonville |
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Kermit W. Highfield |
KY |
Louisville |
Player |
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LINDA HOWARD |
SC |
FLORENCE |
Captain, I do not think that this is fair for the whole team.we go out there and play real hard to win our matches so we will be able to go to state. then everything we have done is for nothing when you disqualify a player from the team. If you are computer rated I don't think this should happen. It does not only hurt that person it hurts the whole team. |
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Catharine Love |
SC |
Florence |
Player, was bumped up in the middle of regular season, after 4 years of computer ratings |
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Linda Cox |
SC |
Florence |
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Archie Smith |
SC |
Florence |
DQ'ing players at the Sectional or National level is ridiculous. Once a player gets that far then they should be allowed to play. |
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Ellen Berry |
SC |
Darlington |
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Lisa Jones |
SC |
Florence |
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sandra poston |
sc |
florence |
against bumping of computer rated player during the season |
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donna dimitri |
LA |
New Orleans |
player |
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kelly duplantis |
LA |
new orleans |
captain |
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Debbie Teachworth |
LA |
Metairie |
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Danielle Dares |
LA |
Metairie |
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Nathalie Folse |
La |
Metairie |
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Kerri Becker |
LA |
Metairie |
Player/Captain |
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Terri Massett |
LA |
Metairie |
I believe the disqualification of computer rated players is extremely unfair. Players work hard to win matches and to help their team move towards a State/Sectional Championship. |
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Janice Kirven |
SC |
Florence |
Captain, player |
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Elaine L Bevis |
SC |
Florence |
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cheri miller |
LA |
metairie |
I play 3.0 women's day in new orleans & our hopes of going to state this season has been ripped from our team because of this dynamic DQ system. Two of our key players have been DQ'd mid season-one of them ALL of her matches were taken away & the other just the last match which ended up giving us a team loss. We were in 1st place with a substantial lead & now because of this we are in 3rd place. We are by far the best team in this bracket & we will not be @ state thanks to this system. PLEASE LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET RID OF THIS FLAWED SYSTEM!!! |
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Sandee Seelig |
LA |
Metairie |
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Evelyn Goforth |
SC |
Florence |
disqualified players have a difficult time finding another team to play on in the current season already underway. |
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Maura A. Rolland |
SC |
Florence |
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susan brough |
SC |
florence |
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melissa ellerbe |
sc |
florence |
player |
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Kathy Broussard |
LA |
New Orleans |
player |
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Tracy Giacone |
LA |
Metairie |
Player |
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Lisa McGowan |
LA |
Kenner |
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Martha Donnelly |
SC |
Florence |
Player |
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Taylor Green |
AZ |
Tucson |
4.5 Mens Captain, I think the USTA needs to rethink the NTRP rating system because of the abuses os the the self rating system in place. Someone other than the player needs to look at a player. The year they implemented the self rating program everyone should have been able to self rate not just new players etc. |
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don arkin |
az |
tucson |
player/captain, I would have thought that the arbitrariness and unfairness of this policy speaks for itself. Although the problem it apparently seeks to cure is real, this attempted solution is worse. |
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Sean Oseran |
AZ |
Tucson |
Captain |
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Deborah Rhodes |
sc |
florence |
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Walt Ridley |
AZ |
Tucson |
Captain, 4.0 Senior and Super Senior |
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Patty Browning |
KY |
Louisville |
Captain. Way to knock a team down after a year's worth of practice, clinic fees, match fees, usta fees, etc. USTA did this to us before our last match of the season, disqualifying one of our players whose scores were competitive by the standards (i.e. 6-6, 7-6). USTA considered her dynamic rating higher than whatever the heck it was supposed to be. and they have yet to go after our competitors who are winning 6-0, 6-1 match after match. We have now been bumped from first place to 4th, with no hopes of competing in the state tournament...unless they decide to knock the wind out of another competitor's sails. |
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Priscilla Cribb |
SC |
Florence |
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Jeff Deming |
NC |
Davidson |
I went to state as a 3.0 last year only to have my partner DQ'd after state - disallowing his participation in Sectionals. I am playing at the same level this year and am worried about my own DQ. I am a Captain for a men's 3.5 team. |
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Kathryn Chou |
CA |
Redwood City |
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Barby Pickett |
CA |
San Carlos |
Captain |
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louise tierney |
ca |
sunnyvale |
Players should be NOTIFIED as soon as they get their third strike and should not be allowed to play another match at that level. Previous matches won should not be taken away ad certainly the entire team shouldn't be disqualified. Other then a medical reason players should NOT be allowed to adjust their rating back down once they are given a higher computer rating. |
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Brooke Howie |
CA |
Foster City |
So unfair to be disqualified when you are playing your rating and are disqualified for improving. With no way to know if you are even in jeopardy to be punished without even a warning is unconscionable. Besides encouranging captains to tell their players to sandbag it undermines the whole point of USTA and fair play. |
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Dorian West |
CA |
Redwood City |
Player |
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patty Coulson |
CA |
San Carlos |
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Theresa Musser |
CA |
San Carlos |
Player |
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Janice Coakley |
CA |
San Mateo |
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Helen Kishi |
CA |
Belmont |
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Erin |
CA |
San Carlos |
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Hsiomei Hung Mead |
CA |
San Francisco |
Player & Captain |
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greta rzepski |
CA |
mountain view |
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Anne Neeter |
CA |
San Jose |
Captain of several teams - this disqualification is bad policy. |
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Julie Parish |
CA |
San francisco |
so glad this is circulating! |
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Annie Monteleone |
CA |
San Francisco |
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Debbie Spillane |
CA |
San Carlos |
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Bonnie Lowe |
CA |
Hayward |
player |
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Melissa Shymko |
CA |
San Francisco |
Captain |
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sharon adams |
CA |
san anselmo |
player |
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Judy D. Olson |
CA |
Groveland |
Player, Captain, League coordinator |
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paula sauve |
ca |
san rafael |
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Linda Baarts |
CA |
Lincoln |
Player |
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Kathy Kahn |
CA |
Menlo Park |
player |
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Larry Kahn |
CA |
Menlo Park |
player |
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Linda Leong |
CA |
San Mateo |
Player |
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Ginny Weed |
CA |
Foster City |
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Jennifer Gurevitz |
CA |
Burlingame |
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Diane Burgess |
CA |
Belvedere |
Not fair to team the way it stands now. Not only is player out but so is team |
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Susan Johnson |
CA |
Menlo Park |
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Catherine Shum |
CA |
Palo Alto |
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Jennifer Pereos |
NV |
Sparks |
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Jane Bagley |
CA |
Menlo Park |
Captain |
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Roger Mead |
CA |
San Francisco |
Player |
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Weishen Mead |
CA |
San Francisco |
Junior Player |
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John Abbis |
CA |
Menlo Park |
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Heather Abbis |
CA |
Menlo Park |
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Gust Zumas |
CA |
San Mateo |
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karen mead |
CA |
burlingame |
as a captain it makes planning for any possibility of sectionals/districts nearly impossible..little to no control or input of outcome. |
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McGaughy, Rita |
CA |
Fremont |
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Kerry Cunningham |
CA |
Burlingame |
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Cynthia Shannon |
CA |
Redwood City |
You should look at the players before they to Sectionals -- as you have allowed them to play on the team. And during the time teams are playing their league matches, and you receive a complaint -- this is the time to check them out, not after you have allowed them to play league matches and into Sectionals. I believe the fees that you have generated by allowing us to enter more teams in a season would give you additional personnel to look into these complaints before Sectionals. |
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Robert Ketchum |
CA |
San Francisco |
Player |
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Christina Bird |
CA |
Menlo Park |
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Debbie Gill |
CA |
San Francisco |
Captain and Player |
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Peggy Hodel |
CA |
San Rafael |
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STEPHANIE ALLEY |
CA |
SAN MATEO |
MANY OF THE CAPTAINS WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS "BUMPING UP" PRACTICE AND IF I WAS AWARE OF IT I DO NOT THINK I WOULD CAPTAIN A USTA TEAM. I FEEL IT IS AN ULTIMATE CONTROL ISSUE WITHIN USTA AND THE ANTITHESIS OF FAIR PLAY. WHY DIDN'T CAPTAINS GET A SAY ON THIS ISSUE. IS USTA BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP? IF SO I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORGANIZATION. WHAT HAPPENED TO JUDY OLSON'S TEAM WAS A TRAGEDY OF JUSTICE. |
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Robert Jones |
FL |
Jacksonville |
AMEN, Stephanie! |
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Elaine Sanches |
CA |
Fremont |
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judith w sheldon |
CA |
san francisco |
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Marilyn Giaras |
CA |
Lincoln |
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Nancy Sallaberry |
CA |
Menlo Park |
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Christine |
CA |
Fremont |
Player |
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Susan Shears |
CA |
Fremont |
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John Henne |
FL |
Tampa |
Computer rated players should only be disqualified at season end, not by three flags. |
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Stephen Joyce |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Owner, Newport Beach Tennis Club |
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Bryce Frampton |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Captain |
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Margaret Morley |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player |
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John Power |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player |
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Ross Townsend |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player. All our dedication and hard work was all for nothing when 1 player was DQd for a 6-4, 6-4 win. I will no longer play USTA while this kind of thing can happen. |
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Scott McClave |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player: our team was disqualified (incorrectly) for this exact problem |
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Jose Luna |
CA |
Newport Beach |
I will not support USTA Leagues anymore. Doesn't make sense to me and my team, work hard, invest time and money (break strings, buy balls, buy foods, waste tennis cloth, etc...) and then got disqualify by a computer by mistake. |
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Adam |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player, I was a DQed player which forced our team to settle for second place. I'm famous, and I'm not supporting the USTA any more! |
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Carol Soto |
CA |
Tustin |
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Erik Block |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Teams in our local area who won their flights competitively were stripped of their champion titles due to post season DQs. Any match played in good faith where the scores were 6-3, 6-4, 7-5, or 7-6 should not count as "clearly out of level" resulting in a strike. Until USTA corrects this practice it will be difficult to solicit my players to participate again. USTA is disenfranchising players who would otherwise be strong ambassadors to league play. The appeal process should include human judgement to overturn unintended outcomes from the computer system. Not simply checking to see if the scores input were correct. |
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J. Cohen |
CA |
Newport Beach |
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Dale Leslie |
CA |
Irvine |
Player. 6-3, 6-4, 7-5 and 7-6 scores should be encouraged. These are not "clearly out of league" scores and make for exciting matches. The system needs to be changed. |
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Tony Joyce |
CA |
Newport Beach |
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Steve Carter |
CA |
Orange County |
We were the victim of a sickening injustice where a player of ours was deemed too high because he beat a player twice that was injured to the point where he was serving underhand. I will never play in any USTA event as long as this system is in place. |
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Julie Leslie |
CA |
Irvine |
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chris burkhardt |
ca |
fountain valley |
affected player- we had earned the flight championship only to lose it by a DQ. |
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ken illson |
ca |
aliso viejo |
player |
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Rose Caven |
FL |
Jacksonville |
Captain |
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Lew Becker |
CA |
Irvine |
Player |
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Earle Zucht |
CA |
Corona del Mar |
Player, This has been my fifth year and could be my last if something is not done in improving these rules. Please take action. |
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Linda Winston |
CA |
Newport Beach |
player |
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Ivan Moad |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player |
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Tony Prodan |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player |
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Donna Poag |
CA |
Newport Beach |
player |
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Marty Balber |
CA |
Newport Beach |
Player |
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Judibelle Roman |
FL |
Orange Park |
Player |
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Stacey L. Young Townsend |
CA |
Newport Beach |
I am Team Captain for Newport Beach TC for USTA 4.0 Ladies and Mixed Team. We are not machines and should not be rated by a computer. We should have enough USTA Officials to attend Playoff Matches and Bump Up any players that are exceeding their rating using the computer as a guide not to Disqualify Players. Also, we need to get some of the 4.5 players (guys)up in the 5.0s and open up the 5.5, 6.0, & 6.5 Divs. I think that's the problem for the 4.0 Div. The 4.5 and 5.0 Div have College Rated Players that should be in 6.0+above. A male player rated 4.0, but computer showing him moving up 4.3+, but if he plays in 4.5 USTA he gets KILLED by the College Level Players rated USTA 4.5. Sincerely, Stacey Young Townsend |
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Tim Jones |
LA |
Bogalusa |
Rating by a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER ONLY IS DUMB! He/she has not watched anyone that is DQ'd play. This practice of computer generated DQ's of computer rated players is hurting the sport. Do something different, even if it's wrong, too. Keep trying till you can find an equitable solution. Please, don't sit in ivory towers saying everyone has to play by the rules. Change the rules when they are bad. Do something. Don't just sit there. |
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Jeffrey Amante |
CA |
San Bruno |
Captain, Player |
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Randy Alderson |
MI |
Clarkston |
This "dynamic DQ system" is absolute terrible in practice. Even worse, the USTA, the organization that we support with our dollars, won't even tell us what exactly the system is. |
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Leslie Alderson |
MI |
Clarkston |
Player |
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NANNETTE RICHARDSON |
FL |
INDIALANTIC |
CAPTAIN |
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GAYLE SISAK |
FL |
COCOA |
PLAYER |
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JULIA WATTERS |
FL |
MELBOURNE |
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JANE QUADROS |
FL |
MERRITT ISLAND |
PLAYER |
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Gina Palombi |
FL |
Melbourne |
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Elaine Vicari |
FL |
Melbourne |
Player. This policy definately needs to be reviewed and amended. |
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marilyn webster |
FL |
melbourne |
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NANNETTE RICHARDSON |
FL |
INDIALANTAIC |
CAPTAIN/PLAYER. JUST FINISHED SECTIONALS IN DAYTONA BEACH AND MY 4.0 LADIES TEAM WAS A VICTIM OF THIS SYSTEM! I HAD A PLAYER WHO EARNED TWO OF HER STRIKES ON TWO MATCHES AT SECTIONALS ONLY TO BE TAKEN AWAY. WHAT AN INJUSTICE! SHE WON A MATCH 3 AND 2(PLAYED FOR 2 AND 1/2 HOURS) AND A SECOND ONE 4 AND 1. HOW MANY OF US HAVE HAD THOSE SAME SCORES? THE SAD THING IS THAT IN THE SECOND STRIKE MATCH, HER OPPONENT WANTED TO RETIRE DUE TO AN INJURY BUT HER TEAM ENCOURAGED HER TO CONTINUE. COULD HARDLY HIT THE BALL AND HAD TO SERVE UNDERHANDED. YET MY PLAYER IS THE ONE WHO IS PUNISHED. I TRIED TO APPEAL THE THIRD STRIKE BUT IT WAS REJECTED. I WAS TOLD THAT THE CRITERIA FOR REVERSING A DQ APPEAL WAS MISSING INFORMATION OR INCORRECT SCORES. SINCE I HAD NEITHER OF THOSE, THE DECISION STANDS. I FEEL IF A PERSON RECEIVES TWO STRIKES THAT THEY SHOULD BE VISUALLY OBSERVED BEFORE THE THIRD STRIKE BY AN OFFICIAL. THIS WOULD BE A SIMPLE SOLUTION AND THE PLAYER WOULD NEVER KNOW THEY WERE BEING OBSERVED THEREFORE NO S |
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Jennifer Hibler |
FL |
Melbourne |
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Heather Schleicher |
FL |
Palm Bay |
Only the USTA could find a way to punish an athlete for working hard . Since when does it seem fair to DQ someone for winning. This computer strike system is forcing people to not play to their best ability in fear of getting a strike and hurting their team. |
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Lesley Sheridan |
Fl |
Melbourne |
Player - I am totally in agreement with my teammate Nannette Richardson and concur with her comments. I have written an e-mail to the USTA this evening and am very interested to see if they will reply to me and also what they will say. I have also given them the information on our ooponent who was not DQ'd and who should have been . she had already had 4 wins at the 4.5 level in the Alabama women's Mobile League BEFORE sectionals!!! then we could watch how she deliberately threw the games...this is unjust and does not promote fairplay. Isn't that what the USTA tennis tournaments should be about? Now that person is going to Nationals whereas our player gets "punished" and so does our team for playing well. I hardly call winning on tiebreakers an easy win!! I hope the USTA gets to reconsider what it has done in time for this situation to be remedied. |
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Laurie McClelland |
FL |
Daytona |
player |
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Lisa Troner |
FL |
Indialantic |
Once you advance to a tournament your rating should remain and not be subject to disqualification or penalty. All changes to a players status should occur at the next level tournament with adaquate notice prior to the tournament. |
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margret cornell |
fl |
rockledge |
Please, eliminate dynamic disqualification during sectional tournaments. Let us enjoy the good games with good players. |
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GAYLE SISAK |
FL |
COCOA |
I PERSONALLY QUIT PLAYING USTA A FEW YEARS BACK FOR EXACTLY THE REASON STATED. I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THE COMPUTER HAS STEPPED IN TO "ASSIST" WITH THE RATINGS. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE OFFICIALS WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR ALMIGHTY PAPER AND PENCILS JUDGING EACH PLAYER. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT WAS ELIMINATED. THE POSSIBLITIES OF PREJUDICE WAS INEVITABLE. NOW, I TRULY BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE COMPUTER WITH ASSIST FROM AN OFFICIAL WHO IS WILLING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND MAKE "GOOD" JUDGEMENT DECISIONS ONCE THE COMPUTER HAS DQ'D SOMEONE. THIS OFFICIAL SHOULD NOT BE A PERSON SITTING BEHIND THE DESK AT THE TOURNAMENT. THEIR DIRECT DEALINGS WITH THE CAPTAIN AND PLAYERS COULD BE PREJUDICED AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE OF ANOTHER CONFRONTATION. PERHAPS THIS PERSON COULD WATCH THE PLAYER IN QUESTION ONCE, AT LEAST A WHOLE SET, TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT CALL. THERE IS TOO MUCH ROOM FOR POLITICS FOR THIS TO BE FAIR. |
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Pat Sargeant |
Fl |
Melbourne |
The DQ of a player without full knowledge of the playing conditions (i.e. opponent is injured but chooses to continue to play) and encouraging players to intentionally "drop" games to prevent a potential DQ seems to go against the spirit of competition and the intent of "fair play" established by USTA. |
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karin lilley |
fl |
indian harbour beach |
We are here to play tennis. I can understand that a self rated player can play at their own risk. A player who has been in the computer forever should NOT be disqualified at any point of the season. It is all so subjective. |
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Bridget Sentz |
Fl |
Satellite Beach |
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Sherri Lynn France |
FL |
MELBOURNE |
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Cesar Gonzalez Jr. |
NY |
Yonkers |
We had a player given third strike this past weekend at sectionals costing us a trip to Nationals. The system needs to be corrected and the only ay it can be done is by suing the USTA and exposing the flaws in the system. |
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ernie biele |
ny |
putnam valley |
player |
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Richard J. Block |
NY |
Yorktown Heights |
Captain |
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GAIL MARTIN |
NY |
ROSLYN |
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Ginger Canfield |
NY |
Cortlandt Manor |
captain & player |
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Dan Siegel |
NY |
Yonkers |
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Michele Miller |
NY |
westchester |
Captain |
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Luis Cevallos |
NY |
NY |
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Greg Leeds |
NY |
Scarsdale |
The current ranking system seems very flawed but certainly one way to help fix it would be to stop the unfair dqing of computer ranked players at the sectional level. |
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Franklin L. Johnson |
NY |
New York |
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Jenni Bourque |
NY |
New York |
Captain and player |
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Jeffrey G. Abrandt |
NY |
New York |
Player and avid support of USTA Tennis, tennis related charities etc. |
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Jones Perry |
NY |
Irvington |
Reversing all wins of a disqualified computer-rated player at sectionals unfairly penalizes the player and his team. At least until the disqualification, the player has achieved his success in good faith and those wins should stand. |
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kasarsky jason |
ny |
ny |
player |
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Matt Cohen |
NY |
Carmel |
I was bumped from 4.0 to 4.5 after 2 matches of our district tournament. It cost my team a chance to move on. |
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Christopher Baldassarri |
NY |
Yonkers |
Player |
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stephen rollins |
ny |
pomona |
Player |
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Jan Strack |
NY |
New Rochelle |
Player |
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Charles Manak |
NJ |
Madison |
Player |
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mary coopman |
ny |
montrose |
player. strikes could be noted as they occur. that way a team will be informed. if team decides to risk a third strike, they keep playing a 2 striked player. more information - better decisions - more equitable competition. |
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Susan Kozak |
NY |
Scarsdale |
Player and Captain - computer rated players should not get Dq'd at sectionals. It is wrong. It is not fair to the teammates or player to DQ someone who has worked hard to be the best at thier level |
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lisa barrett-johnson |
ny |
yonkers |
captian that went to nationals; 4.5 player |
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joel silbert |
ny |
yonkers |
usta spectator |
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rachael johnson |
ny |
yonkers |
junior player |
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brad t. phillips |
ny |
yonkers |
recreational player; merril lynch employee |
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Sarah L. White |
NY |
Brooklyn |
Player |
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Paul Willard |
CA |
San Francisco |
I am ok with cutting a player off if they have improved beyond level, but reversing decisions is not fair to other players. Especially given that the four game moving average used in the computer rating system means that a player who plays in more matches has an increased likelihood of moving up farther and getting dq'd. So the dq'd player in some sense is penalized for playing more matches in post season over a more extended time frame in which to improve than players that do not make it to post season. |
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N. Edwards |
NY |
Port Chester |
Player |
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Lilian Kim |
CA |
San Francisco |
player, captain |
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Brian Moran |
NY |
Hawthorne |
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Robin Davis |
FL |
Indialantic |
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Ronald E. Richardson |
FL |
Melbourne |
If you are a computer rated player and make it to the tournament you should not have a chance at DQ and ruin the tourney for your team mates! Non computer rated players should be DQ if they are a level up. |
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Collin Chu |
CA |
San Francisco |
Dynamic ratings are absolute in and do not fairly assess real tennis abilities. By not having visual raters present at matches of "questionable" players, too many players have been unfairly d-qed by the computer and yet they would have no chance of winning a set at districts or sectionals. The dynamic ratings have unfairly disqualified many players that aren't half as good as "computer rated players" at districts and sectionals. A 6-0 one day could be an 0-6 loss the next day. The computer doesn't take in consideration if one 6-0 win was a result of 30 deuces during the set, nor does it indicate that the winner won 24 straight points while the loser score none. To place scores as absolute, they need to record points as well. It also doesn't take into consideration that a good player may be playing with injuries, nor a match where the opponant just couldn't adjust to different pace or styles of play. I've had days where I've played up to a strong 3.5 level and yet I couldn't beat a 2.0 senior the next da |
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Susan Bacey |
NY |
Eastchester |
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Susan Friedlaender |
NY |
New Rochelle |
Player and Captain |
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janet dooley |
ny |
Pelham Manor |
National Tennis Champions winners 2005 Eastern |
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Karen Greenwood |
NY |
Briarcliff |
Player, Captain. Playing your best shouldn't involve looking over your shoulder, waiting for a 100th of a point to end your team's quest for a championship. This is supposed to be fun... |
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Gary Mohr |
NY |
Cortlandt Manor |
Computer rated players should not be able to get D'qued once the regular season is over, you are actually encourging players to intentionally lose a match to get a flag on thier opponent as a method to win, it would be much better to lose 6-0 6-0 than 6-4 6-3, If you are going to lose the match, might as well try drawing a flag |
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susan wilson |
ny |
scarsdale |
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LON RIGG |
NY |
MOUNT VERNON |
A player that has been playing at the 3.5 level for for over five years playing approximately 20 to 30 matches per year, captained a team and went sectionals and the team beat all team that stood in the way. Then upon juvilant celebration was told that he had three strikes and that all courts that he played on would be taken away therefore, another would go to Nationals. This is not only unfair to this player but also to his teammates. USTA rated this player as 3.5 player. He lost three out four matches playing 4.0 this year. Therefore clearly not a 4.0 player, but USTA system has now rated him a 4.0. This wrong and not right |
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michael montalbano |
ny |
westchester |
my captain damon disalvatore was dq'd and he didnt break any rules and our whole team was punished for something we had no control over |
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Kimberly Chon |
NY |
White Plains |
Damon Disalvatore |
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Eileen Melniker |
NY |
New York City |
Captain |
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carrie rabuse |
ny |
hartsdale |
i think it is terrible that a player works so hard to prove himself and then gets penelized for all the time.....energy and money to be a team player and try his hardest. This encouraged all players to "cheat" he is computer rated and should be rewarded for all his hard work. this is terrible and I would not want anyone to join the usta.....waste of time and teaches everyone to cheat...... |
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Joan Hiam |
NY |
New Rochelle |
Player |
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deborah salomon |
ct |
stamford |
i am a captain of the best of the west team for 4.5 woman of southern connecticut. the usta rules have gotten out of hand and i hope that you can better rate your system to be more fair in the future |
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carol Powers |
ny |
white plains |
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Lisa Hart |
ny |
chappaqua |
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Deborah Blatt |
NY |
New Rochelle |
I was a captain for 3 years and a player since 2001. |
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Thalia Zizzo |
NY |
Pelham |
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Bea Culen |
NY |
Pelham |
Player and former captain |
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John Bollinger |
NJ |
Atlantic Highlands |
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Halina Pavels |
NY |
New York |
Player - I cannot think of any other sport at professional or amateur level, that would penalize its players during the same season for playing well. In the sport of volleyball, where I competed for many years as an amateur and then as a professional, both nationally and internationally, teams and players advance to the next higher division or classification effective only the following league season or in the case of tournaments, the next event. If the USTA has assigned a computer rating, not based on a self-rate, it should officially sanction that player's participation at that level for that entire season. Certainly this process needs to be refined to serve the purpose for which it was originally intended. For starters, one adjustment might be to eliminate the option players now have to appeal their rating down when new ratings come out at the start of the year. |
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Cheryl-Anne Bliss |
NJ |
Aberdeen |
Player: The current system discourages players from improving and is unfair to teams. If a computer rated player exceeds their rating, at worst case, subsequent play should be suspended, not have matches played in good faith disqualified. If at an officiated play-off it would be best if an official visually verified the rating before cutting the player off. This should be different for a self-rated player, since there is no basis for good faith if they exceed their rating. |
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Sylvia Gross |
NY |
Scarsdale |
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Barry Portnowitz |
FL |
Palm Bay |
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Michaela Hewett |
NY |
New York |
Captain and player. What a shame this rule even has to exist in a sport where fair play and honesty are by words. Since it does, however, if a player plays through the entire league season and is not DQ'd for playing at a higher level than rated, they should not be DQ'd at Sectionals. Locally, we play mostly har-tru courts; at sectionals, the matches are on hard courts. The players who play on hard courts regularly have an advantage over soft court players. There are too many variables at sectionals to DQ a player. And why penalize someone who works hard to improve their game through out the season and does well in playoffs? The point of the sport is to play fairly and honestly and to reward people for their improvements, not to penalize them. The computer ratings at the beginning of the season should stand. |
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Beth Principe |
NJ |
Neptune |
Player |
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Linda Popper |
NY |
Westchester |
Captain |
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Christopher G. Bacey |
NJ |
Somerset |
USTA 3.0 Captain |
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Yuko Inagaki |
NY |
Brooklyn |
Player/Captain: I think the current system is causing unintended consequences and needs to be updated. I understand the need to disqualify self-rated players in certain cases, but not computer-rated players in the middle of the season, especially at the sectionals. We all want to get better whether it’s in the middle of or after the season without having to ruin team’s chances to advance further after dedicating so much time and effort for USTA league play. In the worst scenario case, I might agree to have the player stop playing at the current level after his/her computer rating changes during the season, but not to disqualify the previous matches played in good faith at the rating certified by the computer at that time. |
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Michele Spano |
NY |
Harrison |
If you're going to DQ a player, you should do it after the first match-don't wait until he or she has played all three and their scores are crucial...if the team knows at the outset, they won't play him or her again. |
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LUIS MARCHANY |
NY |
TARRYTOWN |
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Heide-Marie Bliss |
NY |
Yonkers |
Player, Captain: I believe that players that have substantial playing histories in the system should not be DQ'd throughout the year let alone sectionals. By not DQ'ing these players I believe that we would encourage folks to play their best and not play the system. There needs to be a system that balances the need to disqualify newer players, with little playing history in the system, that have under-rated themselves versus the player that is trying hard to improve their play. Perhaps once a player has 15-20 matches they can't get DQ'd. I do think, though, that dynamic computers ratings are a vast improvement over visual ratings - how many times did we see new players start to tank their matches whenever a rating official was in the vacinity? |
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Lynne Prior |
NY |
Mamaroneck |
Player and former Captain |
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Karime Buraye |
NY |
Franklin Square |
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Steve Schleicher |
FL |
Palm Bay |
player |
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Jennifer Lapey |
NY |
Pelham |
Dear USTA: I think it is outrageous that you penalize someone for a successful season during that actual season. One appropriate remedy may be to "bump up" an undefeated player AFTER the season. I've played tennis my entire life and went to the NCAA Division III Nationals in 1988. I've never heard of such an unfair, counterproductive system. Jennifer Monachino Lapey. |
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Darren Senzon |
NY |
Ossining |
Player and Captain and DQ's like this after someone plays 4 matches in a state tournament are completely unfair. He is a good player but he has been computer rated for 5 years. At least give a warning before the states or allow us to see our exact ratings before each match. |
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David Mac Donald |
FL |
Melbourne |
player/former captain |
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Jason Frankel |
NY |
Mamaroneck |
Player |
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Kathy McMahon |
NY |
Tarrytown |
I began usta play just last season and was shocked to find out that this is possible. Seems unfair when a player has absolutely no control of their computer rating to then be penalized for something they have no control over. |
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Philip J. Maresco |
NY |
Bronx |
Player/Captain I think the 3 strike rule should apply to a first year self rated player and or to the first 10 matches played after self-rating, whichever comes last. The rule should NOT be applied to people who have a legitimate computer rating and start the season in good faith, expecting to be rewarded with playoffs and sectional and national tournament play if they have improved, NOT disqualification. Any increase in computer rating of those players should occur at the end of the National tournaments. |
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Stacie Reed |
LA |
Destrahan |
Player |
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Christie Rebok |
VA |
Ashburn |
Player |
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DAVID V. SWANSON |
CA |
San Francisco |
PLAYER |
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Richard Morton |
NY |
Scarsdale |
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Elaine Anton |
NY |
Putnam Valley |
If a player looks to playing above level during the league season by reported match scores, I suggest it would be better handled if investigated during the league season and dealt with at that time. Waiting until the next level of competition punishes the team as a whole. DQing a particular player during regular season play seems like a more fair approach to players trying to beat the system and play under their true ability. |
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whitney hess |
wv |
hurricane |
player |
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Kevin O'Malley |
NY |
NYC |
I have been to 4 nationals in 2 seasons and I completely agree that this rule, among other factors, is ruining USTA League Tennis. |
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Andrea Deitch |
NY |
New Rochelle |
player |
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Anne Ainslie |
NY |
Pelham |
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Karin Mann |
FL |
Satellite Beach |
I don't think disqualifying someone because they are playing well should be done during a tournament. If they do really well bumping them up a level AFTER the tournament has ended seems fair to me. |
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Whitney Lancaster |
CT |
darien |
Captain |
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paul noto |
ny |
mamaroneck |
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Rosa M. Morrow |
NY |
Port Chester |
Please add me to the USTA Petition Database. Team Captain |
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Stella Stoyanova |
NY |
New York |
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Nicole Sirak |
ID |
Boise |
I am a tennis player disqualified at sectionals and my story reads like the worst case scenario on the ustapetition.com website. While I understand how having a subjective appeal process may invite the potential for mischief, either in the form of manipulation by the affected player or, more likely, inconsistent application of the rating system nationwide, the current system presents problems of its own. The current system applies specific criteria to apportion “strikes” against a player and when the third strike is issued, the player immediate moves up to the next rating level, and all his or her scores are reversed retroactively. The system is certainly an attempt to keep the playing field level and not allow players who exceed the rating level tolerances to continue to play within that rating level, which is certainly appropriate. However, it seems incompatible with the notion of fair play to apply this strict measure not only in the middle of a tournament, but also retroactively. It stands to reason t |
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Janet Buck |
ID |
Boise |
Player |
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Wendy Nielsen |
ID |
Meridian |
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Lindsay Purcell |
Ct |
Darien |
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brenda thompson |
ct. |
darien |
We the "add ins" won sectionals. We were (are) the strongest 2.5 team there and won as a team 90 per cent of our matches. Our captain who plays doubles TWO to guarantee a win got bump up from a 2.99 to a 3.01 ten minutes after we were told we were going to nationals. At a 2.5 level you only play a total of 12 games so dq'ing one play automatically eliminates one third of all your wins. Needless to say the entire team was eliminated from the goal we worked sooooo hard to achieve. Even if the dq'd player did not play, would they then bump her up after her first game at Nationals and leave us all hung out to dry? The current rule is grossly unfair and should be eliminated. |
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lissa steele roth |
ct |
norwalk |
captain |
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patrik binkowski |
ct |
Stamford |
Coach for 2.5 Ad Ins(winners of sectionals). Unfair and inefficient system where an individual can get disqualified after winning sectionals. And how is it possible that there isn't a appeal process in place? One shouldn't be penalized for working hard and improving during the season. |
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Tasha Nagler |
CT |
Darien |
Player |
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Christopher Brough |
CA |
Manhattan Beach |
Concerned Player |
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Christian Nagler |
CT |
Darien |
USTA Member |
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marion nagler |
ct |
norwalk |
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Alex Walko |
CT |
Greenwich |
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ashley ware |
CT |
Darien |
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cathy kreppein |
ct |
cos cob |
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Brooks Ware |
CT |
Darien |
Player |
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Jessica Fisher |
CT |
Stamford |
player |
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Beth Nann |
CT |
Old Greenwich |
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Jennifer Forelli |
CT |
Darien |
Present rule creates an atmosphere of mistrust and confusion. Terrible rule. |
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Betsy Raftery |
CT |
Wilton |
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Cybelle Santo Domingo |
FL |
Miami |
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Holly Galper |
CT |
Darien |
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Alex Roth |
NY |
Goldens Bridge |
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Stefanie Kies |
CT |
Old Greenwich |
ex-player/fan |
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Tally Harris |
FL |
Sarasota |
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steve waterman |
ca |
santa barbara |
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Amity Wallace |
CT |
Darien |
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Alexandra Jung |
ct |
darien |
player |
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bernadette Hess |
CT |
wilton |
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beth pope |
ct |
darien |
player |
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Laurel Scarlata |
CT |
Cos Cob |
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Bill Pope |
CT |
darien |
the rule is not particularly effective in achieving its stated goal - - as it has been easily circumvented by those who have an inside understanding and an unfair intention. And, the rule has an absurd retroactive application - - - it is not legitimate and this defect/problem must be acknowledged and repaired. |
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Sept. 15th 2007 |
Petition was mailed again to the USTA National League Director. |